Europe Is Growing Skeptical Of Dialogue With Muslims

Europe Is Growing Skeptical Of Dialogue With Muslims

October 6, 2006


After years of dithering over political correctness with Muslims and Islam, Europe is waking up to a different morning.

A three-week tour of Italy, France, and Britain last month was enough for me to conclude that Western Europeans have moved way beyond dialogue. Confrontation, indeed even provocation, is their preferred approach to the Muslims in their midst.

Long before Pope Benedict XVI’s scathing comments in mid-September on the fallacy of phony Muslim-Christian dialogue, signs of hardening European views toward current Islamic values were plentiful on the Continent.

It was telling, for example, to see how Europeans greeted the naïve commentary that surfaced in America’s National Intelligence Estimate, titled “Trends in Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States.” The NIE told bemused Europeans, among other things, that “greater pluralism and more responsive political systems in Muslim majority nations would alleviate some of the grievances jihadists exploit.”

Situated closer than America to that rough neighborhood called the Middle East, Europeans reacted by noting that the chances for “greater pluralism” in any Muslim country are about as plausible as hell freezing over.

Should the region’s despotic regimes be toppled, a number of press outlets observed, their successors would be even nastier murderers. Possibilities include the saber-wielding soldiers of the Muslim Brotherhood and its tributaries — Hamas, Islamic Jihad, Hezbollah, and the Algerian Armed Islamic Group, among others — men who believe in carrying out ritual killings of their fellow Muslims even before the slaughter of infidels.

The common view in Europe is that pseudo-secularist tyrants in Muslim lands like Pervez Musharraf of Pakistan, Hosni Mubarak of Egypt, and King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia share the same aspirations to dominate, wage war, and rule as Osama bin Laden, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, and Ayman al-Zawahiri of Al Qaeda.

A more relevant passage in the NIE reads: “Jihadists regard Europe as an important venue for attacking Western interests. Extremist networks inside the extensive Muslim diaspora in Europe facilitate recruitment and staging for urban attacks, as illustrated by the 2004 Madrid and 2005 London bombings.”

Indeed, what can one say about Britain’s Muslims, when 10% of those polled after the August airliner plot said they would be “willing” to wage suicide attacks against their fellow Britons, and another 70% refused to condemn that view?

Europeans now see a need not to massage the Muslim ethos but to remove it. One can talk forever of the necessity for Islam to reform itself, but that fails to resonate within Muslim societies, Europeans tell me.

My European tour made it eminently clear that Western Europeans — if not their more liberal, compromised ruling and business elites — believe that for Muslims living in the West, it’s either Western ways or the highway.

Harsh, maybe, but that is how it stands.

When the Italian journalist Oriana Fallaci died in September, newspapers across Europe celebrated her for her journalistic exploits with the likes of Ayatollah Khomeini and Henry Kissinger. But above all, they celebrated her for her fierce, uncompromising, “rejectionist” book about Islam in Europe, “The Rage and the Pride,” which called for nothing less than the expulsion of Muslims who insist on separate societies.

Shortly before and after the pope’s pointed remarks on Islam — in which he added to his earlier statements that Turkey’s 70 million Muslims have no place in “Christian Europe” — there were numerous other mini-explosions. They included Dutch revulsion over the ritual Muslim killing of the movie director Theo van Gogh; the Danish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad; and, most recently, a September 19 article in Le Figaro by the French philosopher and schoolteacher Robert Redeker that made the case that Muslims are bent on muzzling Europe’s democratic values.

Europe is no longer dithering. Every other week, parliaments are restricting the freedom of expression of Muslim fundamentalists, preachers, and madrassas, and questioning every value that militant Islam has attempted to sneak into the Continent over the past 20 years.

The dialogue is over. The time for action is closing in.

Troubles at Islamic Schools in the West

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From Jihad watch — Why we must monitor mosques

Why we must monitor mosques

In “Mosque Matters: Maybe we’d tackle the tough issues if we got that we’re at war,” Michael Ledeen at National Review argues for what I have been arguing for for years: that we must monitor American mosques.

Some day we will be forced to deal fully with the war we are in, and when that happens we’re going to discover a lot of very nasty problems about the future of America. One of them has to do with, of all things, the First Amendment. Consider this story from Wednesday’s London Times:

AN AMERICAN al-Qaeda operative who was a close associate of the leader of the July 7 bombers was recruited at a New York mosque that British militants helped to run.British radicals regularly travelled to the Masjid Fatima Islamic Centre, in Queens, to organise sending American volunteers to jihadi training camps in Pakistan.

Investigators reportedly found that Mohammad Sidique Khan had made calls to the mosque last year in the months before he led the terrorist attack on London that killed 52 innocent people….

Mohammad Junaid Babar, one recruit from the Masjid Fatima Islamic Centre, has told US intelligence officials that he met Khan in a jihadi training camp in Pakistan in July 2003. He claims that the pair became friends as they studied how to assemble explosive devices.

Babar, 31, a computer programmer, says that it was at the Masjid Fatima centre that he became a radical.

It’s interesting that British jihadis came to Queens to recruit Americans — and no doubt some of them, fully trained in slaughter, have returned to these shores — but the important thing is the mosque. Because there’s always a mosque, as my Italian friend Magdi Allam has been repeating for several years. Not all mosques are jihadi, but all jihadis come from a mosque.

Look at the 9/11 terrorists, look at the killer of Daniel Pearl, and you will find well-off, educated men who became radicalized in a mosque. And I’ll bet you a good-sized farm that if we ever get to the bottom of 9/11 we’ll discover that mosques were central in maintaining contact with and discipline over the terrorists.

So mosques can be very dangerous places when the local imam preaches jihadism, as is done in the thousands of Saudi-sponsored Wahhabi mosques all over the world, including the United States. It is clearly a matter of some urgency to put an end to the sort of indoctrination and recruitment that took place at the Masjid Fatima Islamic Center in New York. But that is easier said than done, because the absolutist interpretation of the First Amendment protects the imams and the incendiary sermons preached at such mosques. Freedom of religion forbids the state from meddling in the religious activities of the mosques, and freedom of speech forbids the state from telling the imams “you can’t say that.”

Freedom House should get a medal for publishing what I believe to be the only serious analysis of the contents of the literature distributed by some of these frightening places, and Nina Shea, who has driven this research for years, should have one personally engraved. As a result of this excellent work, along with that done by, inter alia, Steven Emerson, Daniel Pipes, Diana West, and Robert Spencer, we have a pretty complete picture of the dimensions of this threat. And as the London Times story illustrates quite convincingly, this is not just a theoretical matter. The evil words translate into evil action.

Take action to stop Saudi Hate Propaganda in America

Take action to stop Saudi Hate Propaganda in America

An important action initiative from the UAC’s

In accordance with its commitments as a state party to the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), which was approved by the United States Senate in April 1992 and then signed and ratified by President George H. W. Bush on June 8, 1992, the United American Committee calls on the Government of the United States of America to enforce Article 20, Part II of the ICCPR, which declares:”Any advocacy of national, racial or religious hatred that constitutes incitement to discrimination, hostility or violence shall be prohibited by law.”


1) The United American Committee calls on the United States Government to remove all Saudi Arabian publications from U.S. Islamic institutions that constitute a human rights violation under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights or any other human rights treaty to which the United States is a state party.

2) The United American Committee calls on the United States Government to ban the distribution and possession of any and all Saudi Arabian publications in the United States that constitute a human rights violation against the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights or any other human rights treaty to which the United States is a state party.

3) The United American Committee calls for the United States Government to ban the distribution and possession of official Saudi Arabian religious publications until the government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia discontinues violating international human rights laws regarding freedom of religion and the incitement to religious violence, hostility and discrimination. In addition, this ban should include the requirement that all official Saudi religious authorities and institutions cease inciting Muslims to wage jihad (holy war) against American troops in Iraq, Afghanistan and elsewhere.

For those who have not read the Freedom House report “Saudi Publications of Hate Ideology Fill American Mosques”, this report details the contents of publications that were created by the government of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and propagated in U.S. Islamic institutions.These publications advocate violence and hostility against non-Muslims and “apostate” Muslims who do not adhere to the official Saudi state religion of Wahhabi Islam, and promote violence against homosexuals, discrimination against women and xenophobia of “infidel” societies such as the United States. The materials were obtained by Muslims and other experts from Islamic institutions across the entire United States, and were published primarily in Arabic.The advocacy of such violence, hostility and discrimination is expressly prohibited by international human rights law under Article 20 of the International Covenant of Civil and Political Rights, which was ratified by the United States on June 8, 1992.


Sample letter to your congressman/senator regarding the UAC Action on Saudi Hate Propaganda


UK: violent Muslim/non-Muslim clashes

UK: violent Muslim/non-Muslim clashes

Or in the deceptive and misleading racial euphemisms employed by the British press, violent clashes between “whites” and “Asians.” But they don’t mean Norwegians are fighting Hindus from India. “Race clashes hit Windsor,” from the Evening Standard, with thanks to the Constantinopolitan Irredentist:

Extra police are being drafted into the Windsor area today after three nights of violent clashes between white and Asian youths.Gangs have fought battles in the streets using baseball bats and pitchforks. A Muslim-run dairy which wants to build a mosque was petrol bombed.

Dozens of officers have been deployed to stop and search youths and mounted police are being brought in.

The Queen usually spends weekends at Windsor Castle and no decision has yet been taken over whether she would change her plans. A senior source said: “We are aware of what is happening and all appropriate security measures are in place.”

Tensions have been growing between residents and the owners of the dairy, who have applied to convert an office building into a mosque for their workers.

Despite a lack of planning permission to use Technor House as a place of worship, workers and visitors have been praying there.

Violence flared for the first time on Monday outside the building in Vale Road in the Dedworth area of Windsor.

There was an altercation between a teenage boy and dairy staff during prayers. It escalated and the windows of several vehicles were smashed.

Amid claims that the boy, his mother and teenage sister were assaulted, up to 50 young people clashed on Tuesday night.

Windows of the makeshift mosque and dairy vehicles were smashed. Residents said gangs of Asian youths travelled from Slough to fight the white gang. One youth was reportedly arrested for carrying a 12-inch knife.

Dairy manager Sikander Khan, 50, said the 50 predominantly Asian workers at the dairy were now worried about their safety.

The firebomb attack took place on Wednesday night. Mr Khan said: “The youths threw a petrol bomb at us.

“The flames damaged the front of the building, but we were able to put it out with a fire extinguisher. Workers are fearful now because we are under attack.”

Nearby, one hooded youth claimed the problems had started after the previous owners, Express Dairies, left.

The 17-year-old said: “I’ve been here all my life and there were no problems with the old owners, they used to give us milk and stuff.

“We have had a couple of fights with this lot before, but now they’re taking it seriously. We want them out of Dedworth.”

Police stopped cars full of white youths and searched them as other officers photographed and videoed them. Several youths hurled racist abuse at the dairy from their cars as police looked on.

A woman living nearby, who did not want to be named, said the trouble started on Monday.

The following night numbers on both sides had swelled and there was largescale brawling.

“On Monday three young lads, about 15 or so, were in Shirley Avenue when the men came out of prayers and attacked them with pitchforks, baseball bats and iron bars,” she said. “Whether they were provoked or not I don’t know.

“I’m worried that if they allow the mosque things will get worse.”

Other residents said that late-night noise from the dairy was driving them out of their homes and they feared a mosque would make things worse.

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