Frontpage Interview’s guest today is Dave Gaubatz, the first U.S. civilian (1811) Federal
Agent deployed to Iraq in 2003. He is the owner of DG Counter-terrorism Publishing. He is currently conducting a 50 State Counter-terrorism Research Tour (CTRT). He can be contacted at email@example.com.
FP: Dave Gaubatz, welcome back to Frontpage Interview.
Just recently, Representative Frank Wolf stated he does not believe the FBI has completely answered his questions in regards to their relationship with CAIR.
In terms of the evidence you have gathered, is the FBI intentionally misleading not only Rep. Wolf, but the American public, and if so, why?
Gaubatz: Yes Jamie, FBI officials are intentionally misleading Rep. Wolf and I have first-hand evidence of this.
I will go one step further and state that the FBI and U.S. State Department have had very close and inappropriate relationships with CAIR and continue to maintain a “tight relationship.”
FP: What do you mean exactly?
Gaubatz: What I mean is that there are some FBI Agents who are Muslim and conduct off duty time with CAIR, Dar Al Hijrah, and ADAMS Center leaders. The relationships should remain professional, but based on evidence I have seen the relationship has crossed the line. CAIR refers to their FBI contacts as “Friends.” In addition, non-Muslim FBI Agents have crossed the line as well into more of a friendship than a professional relationship.
Again this is based on documentation between the FBI and CAIR that I have personally reviewed.
In regards to why the FBI will not answer Rep. Wolf’s entire question is because the FBI would be forced to lie if they answered completely. Some may be called to later testify to Congress and would be required to swear under oath. Senior FBI officials know the relationship with CAIR has not been severed and the relationship between CAIR and the FBI continues, although more discreetly.
FP: How could Rep. Wolf obtain more specific information on the FBI’s relationship with CAIR?
Gaubatz: First of all, FBI officials should be keeping nothing from Rep. Wolf. Again they only do so because they do not want the public to know how close they were with CAIR’s senior leadership. If they had nothing to hide they would answer completely. Rep. Wolf has been coordinating with the FBI HQ office in DC. He should go directly to the Washington FBI Field Office (WFO). Agents from this office are the primary personnel who have conducted ‘liaison’ for many years with CAIR.
The FBI HQ personnel are protecting personnel from the WFO and all documentation of their visits to CAIR National will be in this office. In addition there have been personnel from the WFO who have had many contacts with CAIR leadership that were not documented. These were informal meetings FBI personnel had not only with CAIR, but Islamic leaders from Dar al Hijrah (Falls Church) and leaders from the ‘All Dulles Area Muslim Society’ (ADAMS).
Rep. Wolf is on the right track and he should understand CAIR, Dar Al Hijrah, and ADAMS are one in the same. These organizations have regular contact at the senior level and share intelligence. The leadership is predominately Sunni (Pure Muslim). Rep. Wolf mentioned Tawfik Hamid. Hamid is stepping forward with valuable intelligence on CAIR and he knows what I am referring to about when I say ‘Pure Muslim’. To define it for readers who do not understand it equates as sharing the same ideology as Islamic terrorist groups. The Islamic Ummah (Nation) under Sharia law is the primary objective and our FBI should have never had formal relations with any organization having ties with terrorists. By doing so it has provided ‘cover’ for CAIR and has allowed CAIR to use their close relationship with the FBI as justification to local, county, and state law enforcement agencies CAIR and mosques who support them are legitimate.
FP: Can you provide some more insight please?
Gaubatz: The FBI as with most large law enforcement departments have officers who are Muslim and naturally have strong ties to their respective mosques. How many FBI agents in the Washington DC Field Office (WFO) and at the FBI HQ office are worshippers at Dar Al Hijrah or the ‘All Dulles Area Muslim Society’ (ADAMS)? Both Dar al Hijrah and the ADAMS center support CAIR. The prior volatile statements made by Rev. Jeremiah Wright are trivial in relation to the violent ideology being taught at both of these large Islamic Centers. If an agent goes to either of the mosques he/she knows what is being taught, and therefore condones the ideology. Unless you are President Obama, one can’t attend either of these Islamic Centers without understanding the ideology being taught. FBI agents or any other Law Enforcement officer can’t adhere to following the laws of a ‘man made government’ and the laws under Sharia at the same time. They contradict one another and a ‘Pure Muslim’ follows Sharia law first, and others lastly.
FP: So what should Rep. Wolf ask the FBI WFO?
Gaubatz: He should ask the following:
 Does this mean you no longer meet with any Islamic organization affiliated with CAIR?
 Does the FBI still meet with Islamic leaders/scholars in Virginia such as the ADAMS Center and Dar Al Hijrah?
 Do Muslim FBI Agents have informal meetings with CAIR executives?
 Does the FBI utilize officers from the JTTF to meet with CAIR and other Islamic leaders associated with CAIR to maintain liaison.
 Has the FBI discussed ‘behind the scenes’ and documented any professional work by an American citizen and counter-terrorism professional (Steve Emerson) with former CAIR attorney Shama Farooq or any of the following people: Seyed Rizwan Mowlana, Denyse Sabagh, or Mohammed Majid? Note: The FBI and all federal agencies are allowed to collect very limited intelligence on U.S. citizens. If the FBI personnel were documenting intelligence on a U.S. person (Mr. Emerson) and maintaining files on him, this is not only unethical, but illegal.
 Would the FBI be willing to explain to the American public the primary duties of Agents Michael A. Mason, Rouda Feghali, and Michael J. Anderson? Will they provide the public all documents/notes pertaining to any meeting they have had with AMSAC, CAIR, Dar Al Hijrah, or Adams Center leaders?
FP: What other important information should Rep. Wolfe obtain?
Gaubatz: He should obtain:
 The last ten FBI WFO notes of their meetings conducted under the name of Arab, Muslim and Sikh Advisory Council (AMSAC) meetings.
 The FBI notes of the 22 Feb 2005, 12 July 2005, and 16 Nov 2005, AMSAC meetings? Note: CAIR is a member and they took their own notes.
 Will the FBI provide the total number of terrorism investigations they have opened that resulted in a conviction based on information CAIR has provided, and also the number of allegations by CAIR pertaining to ‘hate crimes’. Note: I can inform your readers that CAIR has not provided any intelligence resulting in a conviction of any Muslim for any terrorism related offenses. On the other hand, CAIR repeatedly reports alleged ‘hate crimes’ against U.S. persons and U.S. companies.
CAIR ‘uses’ the FBI for their own benefit, and not to protect America. CAIR and their affiliates use the FBI to promote their cultural/diversity training and to have ‘friends’ across America who they can contact anytime when the situation suits their goals. The more ‘hate crimes’ (even if they are known to be false) CAIR reports to the FBI, the more money they will get from donors.
FP: You previously mentioned the U.S. State Department has a very close and un-professional relationship with CAIR. Can you explain?
Gaubatz: The U.S. State Department should also discontinue their relationship with CAIR. There are several State Department officials who visit CAIR National on a regular basis? Why? There are no legitimate reasons why State Department officials should be using taxpayer’s money to visit executives of a terrorist supporting organization. Many of these meetings are conducted at the CAIR National office.
I would add that if CAIR has nothing to hide they should turn over all of their meeting notes with the FBI and U.S. State Department officials. There will be a time in the not too distant future that many U.S. government personnel will have very tough questions asked of them. I commend Rep. Wolf for his outstanding speech that has put not only the FBI, but CAIR on the ‘hot seat’.
FP: If Congress were to hold hearings on the relationship between the FBI, U.S. State Department, and CAIR, would you be willing to swear under oath your evidence on the above information?
Gaubatz: Yes, if the hearings were open to the public.
FP: Thanks Dave Gaubatz.
Gaubatz: Thank you Jamie. I want to add that we have thousands of well intentioned law enforcement officers in the FBI, but many have become unwitting victims of CAIR. Never underestimate the enemy and yes CAIR does represent the enemy.